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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2342
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Posted - 2014.04.16 12:55:00 -
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the last time snipers were useful to the outcome of a battle was back in pre uprising to 1.3
we could cover points, fight on the ground very effectively, remove high ground campers and operate as marksman and be a great asset to the team, 10 snipers is always useless but 1 sniper was a great asset.
i'd like to see snipers back at that point one day, i doubt it will ever happen. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2342
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Posted - 2014.04.16 13:07:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:All snipers suck. There is one way that like to snipe in a heavy suit using a Thale while in the redline hiddding his LAV. It is almost impossible to kill him.
red line sniping is one of the ways to snipe, it's almost the only way left to snipe in this game.
ground sniping is almost a waste of time, since it takes multiple shots( 2-3 for scout, 3-5 for medium- 3-5 for heavy, 5-8 for gal heavy ), all this does is give away your position and get you killed, back in the day if you ground sniped you would drop most targets in 1-2 shots and anyone you didn't you could finish off with your side arm, made for a great way to play.
ground sniping let you move with your squad, it let you be stealthy and operate from within the confines of the whole map rather then a few select spots in the red line, was a much better way to snipe.
the changes since uprising successfully killed this form of sniping, red line sniping hasn't changed much, I mean it's far less effective, but the people who red line snipe aren't sniping for wins they are sniping for isk usually, it's usually pretty easy to make isk while red line sniping, either that or they are just bored of fighting the same way every day non stop. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2352
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Posted - 2014.04.16 17:24:00 -
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Tyjus Vacca wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Gaurdian Satyr wrote:Echoist wrote:McFurious wrote:I have no problem with snipers. Unless they're redline snipers. Then they should go biomass. This right here is the ONLY reason why I hate snipers. With the redline situation right now most snipers are just cowards thinking they're good. Although I do love hunting snipers with my laser and watching them squirm thinking it's someone right behind them when I'm really 70+ meters away lol. But can you identify the good snipers from the scrub snipers? There are a few good on but here is a secret to identify the scrub...the scrub while return the same spot 4 time at least before they stop trying....it takes a good sniper only one bullet for a good sniper to find a new place and never return...scrubick a spot and squit...good ones have a escape route in mind at all times And ill say this...the redline isnt a problem.....ITS THE ONE SIDED SLAUGHTER FEAST IN 90% OF MATCHES If your not getting 20-30 kills a match as a sniper your a scrub. I cleared that up for you don't know too many assaults who put up numbers like that consistently are they scrubs............... so tired of this sniping double standard
I know lots of assaults that get those scores and consistently. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2352
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Posted - 2014.04.16 17:37:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:A good sniper can change the entire flow of battle.
Unfortunately, virtually all dedicated snipers in this game suck and have 0 impact in game. When I get shot or killed by sniper, do you know what I do? I ignore the sniper. Chances are the sniper isn't helping his team and therefore not worth the effort of countering.
And don't blame the gear. It's not the gun that's inadequate, it the merc holding the gun. Wont take the effort to line up headshots? Can't be bothered to hit your target multiple times? Won't make you shots matter in helping your team win because your too busy padding worthless KDR? Oh "boo-hoo".
yep the upper 1% of snipers in this game are capable of making it a good weapon, completely and totally balanced gun.
i'm glad every other gun in the game requires so much skill that it is of equal balance, it's not like anyone can pick up a rail rifle or combat rifle and completely change the flow of a battle, you definitely need to spec into a specific class of suit and max out all of you profs with that gun to be capable of doing decent with those guns. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2353
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Posted - 2014.04.16 19:10:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:calisk galern wrote:medomai grey wrote:A good sniper can change the entire flow of battle.
Unfortunately, virtually all dedicated snipers in this game suck and have 0 impact in game. When I get shot or killed by sniper, do you know what I do? I ignore the sniper. Chances are the sniper isn't helping his team and therefore not worth the effort of countering.
And don't blame the gear. It's not the gun that's inadequate, it the merc holding the gun. Wont take the effort to line up headshots? Can't be bothered to hit your target multiple times? Won't make you shots matter in helping your team win because your too busy padding worthless KDR? Oh "boo-hoo".
yep the upper 1% of snipers in this game are capable of making it a good weapon, completely and totally balanced gun. i'm glad every other gun in the game requires so much skill that it is of equal balance, it's not like anyone can pick up a rail rifle or combat rifle and completely change the flow of a battle, you definitely need to spec into a specific class of suit and max out all of you profs with that gun to be capable of doing decent with those guns. You twist my words. The sniper rifle is incredibly easy to use. The people that use them just tend to suck. You think sniper rifles with hit scan and no bullet drop requires a lot of skill? A gun that you can literally spend the entire match using just one hand to point and click qualifies as requiring lots of skill to you? PS: Mentioning other easy mode toys is not a justification that your weapon isn't one.
not twisting much "A good sniper can change the entire flow of battle.", "virtually all dedicated snipers" can't do this, thus almost all snipers aren't good.
the remaining few must then be able to use the gun and make it good thus it must be a very difficult gun to use effectively.
now you are saying it's an easy mode gun even though you just made statements that it's a very difficult gun to use, if not everyone would be able to use it well. your statements are starting to become confusing.
as for bringing up the other easy mode guns( literally everything else except flaylocks ), I'm not trying to make points that the sniper rifle is balanced or justified because every other game in the gun is easier to get kills with, I'm saying that every other gun in the game is better then the sniper rifle. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2353
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Posted - 2014.04.16 19:28:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:calisk galern wrote:medomai grey wrote:calisk galern wrote:medomai grey wrote:A good sniper can change the entire flow of battle.
Unfortunately, virtually all dedicated snipers in this game suck and have 0 impact in game. When I get shot or killed by sniper, do you know what I do? I ignore the sniper. Chances are the sniper isn't helping his team and therefore not worth the effort of countering.
And don't blame the gear. It's not the gun that's inadequate, it the merc holding the gun. Wont take the effort to line up headshots? Can't be bothered to hit your target multiple times? Won't make you shots matter in helping your team win because your too busy padding worthless KDR? Oh "boo-hoo".
yep the upper 1% of snipers in this game are capable of making it a good weapon, completely and totally balanced gun. i'm glad every other gun in the game requires so much skill that it is of equal balance, it's not like anyone can pick up a rail rifle or combat rifle and completely change the flow of a battle, you definitely need to spec into a specific class of suit and max out all of you profs with that gun to be capable of doing decent with those guns. You twist my words. The sniper rifle is incredibly easy to use. The people that use them just tend to suck. You think sniper rifles with hit scan and no bullet drop requires a lot of skill? A gun that you can literally spend the entire match using just one hand to point and click qualifies as requiring lots of skill to you? PS: Mentioning other easy mode toys is not a justification that your weapon isn't one. not twisting much "A good sniper can change the entire flow of battle.", "virtually all dedicated snipers" can't do this, thus thus almost all snipers aren't good. the remaining few must then be able to use the gun and make it good thus it must be a very difficult gun to use effectively. now you are saying it's an easy mode gun even though you just made statements proving that it's a very difficult gun to use, if not everyone would be able to use it well. your statements are starting to become confusing. You are doing it again. Also this: "the remaining few must then be able to use the gun and make it good thus it must be a very difficult gun to use effectively" is flawed logic as you ignore the obvious that people sucking with a weapon does not equal a weapon that is hard to use. I have never stated or insinuated that the gun was hard to use. That is something you are intentionally misinterpreting for the purpose of being annoying. You remind me of my friend. The only difference being that he is actually clever and can force me to eat my words. You... not so much.
so your argument is that the gun is fine just nearly everyone in the game is just bad at the game and you call my logic bad?
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